Comments on: Would you break the Chatham House rules? http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/ MCIPR, PRESS CONSULTANT, JOURNALIST, POLITICAL AND PR BLOGGER. Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:38:12 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Ellee http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-136533 Ellee Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:39:05 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/#comment-136533 Tom, thanks. You can follow me on twitter here: http://twitter.com/home And my facebook link is top left of my site, but I don't add many updates there. I prefer twitter. Tom, thanks. You can follow me on twitter here:
http://twitter.com/home
And my facebook link is top left of my site, but I don’t add many updates there. I prefer twitter.

]]> By: Tom http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-136531 Tom Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:23:14 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/#comment-136531 Good read Ellee, Perhaps I missed it, but do not see where to join your community. Kindest, Tom Good read Ellee,

Perhaps I missed it, but do not see where to join your community.

Kindest,

Tom

]]> By: close protection http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-84763 close protection Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:47:53 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/#comment-84763 all you need to know about <a> close protection </a> you will found here... all you need to know about close protection you will found here…

]]> By: Tim Wilson http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-3598 Tim Wilson Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:46:58 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/#comment-3598 Apologies, i mixed up two names - I meant of course Chris Edwards. Also, and remembering my manners, thanks for the blog, it's a good read. Apologies, i mixed up two names – I meant of course Chris Edwards. Also, and remembering my manners, thanks for the blog, it’s a good read.

]]> By: Tim Wilson http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-3597 Tim Wilson Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:45:00 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/#comment-3597 Let's all keep calm shall we? PR people get a bad name specifically because they are perceived to lack morals and break the rules, so i can't believe anyone is seriously suggesting you should ever break Chatham House rules, just on the basis of one situation which you found disagreeable. I'm sure like me you've organised Chatham House events in the past, which are extremely useful because otherwise some key people simply wouldn't turn up or say anything of interest. Surely, if the discussion was theoretical and examining the ins and outs of spin, it's better to have people comfortable to talk frankly about times when they themselves may have had to spin and use the facts creatively, if i can put it like that. We all know what happens when someone gets quoted out of context in the press. we also know how controversial the whole dodgy dossier/Kelly business is. I wonder whether any of those who said they didn't minid it not being Chatham House merely felt pressured to do so, for fear of seeming 'illiberal'? Although i would be less scathing, Chris Higham's point that you didn't repeat any of the 'riveting' content - attributable or not - did occur to me also. Let’s all keep calm shall we?

PR people get a bad name specifically because they are perceived to lack morals and break the rules, so i can’t believe anyone is seriously suggesting you should ever break Chatham House rules, just on the basis of one situation which you found disagreeable.

I’m sure like me you’ve organised Chatham House events in the past, which are extremely useful because otherwise some key people simply wouldn’t turn up or say anything of interest.

Surely, if the discussion was theoretical and examining the ins and outs of spin, it’s better to have people comfortable to talk frankly about times when they themselves may have had to spin and use the facts creatively, if i can put it like that. We all know what happens when someone gets quoted out of context in the press. we also know how controversial the whole dodgy dossier/Kelly business is.

I wonder whether any of those who said they didn’t minid it not being Chatham House merely felt pressured to do so, for fear of seeming ‘illiberal’?

Although i would be less scathing, Chris Higham’s point that you didn’t repeat any of the ‘riveting’ content – attributable or not – did occur to me also.

]]> By: Jane Smith http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-3413 Jane Smith Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:29:16 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/#comment-3413 At a business event in Cheshire recently, the speaker, a marketing director, gave some mediumly interesting (but certainly not risque) insights into his company, but invoked CH Rules. I think that for anyone reporting on the event afterwards, the heart sinks, while others present seemed quite excited about the CH mention. Sometimes I wonder whether speakers invoke CHR just to make what they're saying sound edgier? At a business event in Cheshire recently, the speaker, a marketing director, gave some mediumly interesting (but certainly not risque) insights into his company, but invoked CH Rules. I think that for anyone reporting on the event afterwards, the heart sinks, while others present seemed quite excited about the CH mention. Sometimes I wonder whether speakers invoke CHR just to make what they’re saying sound edgier?

]]> By: Ellee http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-3349 Ellee Sun, 26 Nov 2006 17:43:32 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/#comment-3349 Welshcakes, I would agree that the Chathouse House would be desirable if a speaker was revealing secrets, if security was a problem, but that didn't happen here. Is it too easy an option to ask for Chatham House rules? Welshcakes, I would agree that the Chathouse House would be desirable if a speaker was revealing secrets, if security was a problem, but that didn’t happen here. Is it too easy an option to ask for Chatham House rules?

]]> By: Welshcakes Limoncello http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-3348 Welshcakes Limoncello Sun, 26 Nov 2006 17:32:49 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/#comment-3348 Well done for challenging the decision, Ellee. I see your point but I can also see that there could be security issues for some speakers in these dangerous times. Journalists surely have to use non-attributable sources often? What else are leaks? Well done for challenging the decision, Ellee. I see your point but I can also see that there could be security issues for some speakers in these dangerous times. Journalists surely have to use non-attributable sources often? What else are leaks?

]]> By: Ellee http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-3337 Ellee Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:33:52 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/#comment-3337 Chris, To further answer your comment, I think you have misunderstood my point. Certainly, if there was some sensational info I needed to write up on under Chatham House rules, I would have found other means of substantiating them, but that wasn't the case here. The CH rules were not appropriate for this event, though I accept they may be advisable on certain occasions. I have some useful info for future posts which I want to develop when I have time. I think you would have enjoyed being there too. Chris, To further answer your comment, I think you have misunderstood my point. Certainly, if there was some sensational info I needed to write up on under Chatham House rules, I would have found other means of substantiating them, but that wasn’t the case here. The CH rules were not appropriate for this event, though I accept they may be advisable on certain occasions.

I have some useful info for future posts which I want to develop when I have time. I think you would have enjoyed being there too.

]]> By: Ellee http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-3328 Ellee Sat, 25 Nov 2006 20:16:05 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/11/25/would-you-break-the-chatham-house-rules/#comment-3328 Chris, I didn't complain, I questioned. I felt it was an interesting situation bearing in mind the theme of the day. The CH rules didn't seem appropriate, the other speakers agreed. I thought this would be an interesting topic to debate, which has proved to be the case. Chris, I didn’t complain, I questioned. I felt it was an interesting situation bearing in mind the theme of the day. The CH rules didn’t seem appropriate, the other speakers agreed. I thought this would be an interesting topic to debate, which has proved to be the case.

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