Comments on: Questions the government won’t answer http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/ PRESS CONSULTANT, JOURNALIST, GHOSTWRITER, POLITICAL AND PR BLOGGER. Thu, 24 May 2012 15:30:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: John Hirst http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-4686 John Hirst Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:44:09 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/#comment-4686 It all boils down to if we are going to have a policy of reintegration back into society, as opposed to lock em up and throw away the key, then lifers as part of this process go to an open prison. Because there are no walls, for whatever reason, some prisoners will abscond and lifers are no different in this respect. For the Prison Service, this is seen as a breach of trust. That is what it is. If each of these who absconded went on to reoffend, this would be a very serious matter indeed. When one does kill again, the butterfly effect harms the prospects of other lifers moving forward in the system. This is unfair, but it is how the Parole Board responds to media hype. They punish all for the crime of one. It is not that I am minimising the effect of it happening, just that I would like to see things kept in proportion. It all boils down to if we are going to have a policy of reintegration back into society, as opposed to lock em up and throw away the key, then lifers as part of this process go to an open prison. Because there are no walls, for whatever reason, some prisoners will abscond and lifers are no different in this respect. For the Prison Service, this is seen as a breach of trust. That is what it is. If each of these who absconded went on to reoffend, this would be a very serious matter indeed. When one does kill again, the butterfly effect harms the prospects of other lifers moving forward in the system. This is unfair, but it is how the Parole Board responds to media hype. They punish all for the crime of one. It is not that I am minimising the effect of it happening, just that I would like to see things kept in proportion.

]]> By: Ellee http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-4676 Ellee Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:28:35 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/#comment-4676 John, Thanks for coming back and posting your comment again, who knows what happened to it. I always think the facts speak for themselves,that the public is very intelligent and can make its own mind up on whether an issue is serious or has been sensationalised by the media. Any killer on the loose who has absconded from prison is one too many, as far as I am concerned. John, Thanks for coming back and posting your comment again, who knows what happened to it.

I always think the facts speak for themselves,that the public is very intelligent and can make its own mind up on whether an issue is serious or has been sensationalised by the media. Any killer on the loose who has absconded from prison is one too many, as far as I am concerned.

]]> By: John Hirst http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-4665 John Hirst Sun, 17 Dec 2006 22:36:32 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/#comment-4665 Damn computers! All I said was, that in relation to question 10, the amount is so small not to worry about except for the Redtops, which blow it out of all proportion creating a climate of fear. Damn computers!

All I said was, that in relation to question 10, the amount is so small not to worry about except for the Redtops, which blow it out of all proportion creating a climate of fear.

]]> By: Ellee http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-4595 Ellee Sun, 17 Dec 2006 00:30:43 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/#comment-4595 John, I have no idea what you are talking about this is the only comment received from you, I've never, ever censored a comment. John, I have no idea what you are talking about this is the only comment received from you, I’ve never, ever censored a comment.

]]> By: Buster George http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-4594 Buster George Sat, 16 Dec 2006 23:07:56 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/#comment-4594 Ellee There is also the question of the treasury hiring external lawyers to try and prevent the publication of two gateway reports on ID cards. <a href="http://p10.hostingprod.com/@spyblog.org.uk/blog/foia/2006/10/treasury_to_spend_lots_of_money_in_legal_fees_to_try_to_overturn_the_decision_no.html" rel="nofollow">spyblog</a> has more detail of just how much they want to hide information from us that does not paint them in the best poosible light. Ellee

There is also the question of the treasury hiring external lawyers to try and prevent the publication of two gateway reports on ID cards.

spyblog has more detail of just how much they want to hide information from us that does not paint them in the best poosible light.

]]> By: John Hirst http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-4590 John Hirst Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:21:52 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/#comment-4590 I am puzzled why you felt the need to censor my comment in relation to the last question? I am puzzled why you felt the need to censor my comment in relation to the last question?

]]> By: james higham http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-4576 james higham Sat, 16 Dec 2006 18:07:33 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/#comment-4576 There's a lot on this today and it's correct that they couldn't care less now about maintaining the pretence. There’s a lot on this today and it’s correct that they couldn’t care less now about maintaining the pretence.

]]> By: Jeremycj http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-4552 Jeremycj Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:47:02 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/#comment-4552 You've a point John. Also, we can't expect Governments to do everything for us. I think the time has come for 1. More CSR, and 2. More personal responsibility You’ve a point John. Also, we can’t expect Governments to do everything for us. I think the time has come for

1. More CSR, and

2. More personal responsibility

]]> By: John East http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-4523 John East Sat, 16 Dec 2006 00:25:42 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/#comment-4523 Having railed against New Labour for the last year on my blog I'm finding it harder to continue blaming them for all our ills. I'm coming around to the view that they are simply a reflection of modern society, after all, who expects David Cameron to be any different? Politics is now an art of deception, half truths, lies and doublespeak, if not more so than in the past, it is certainly far more sophisticated in deception and evasion than ever before. So the big question today is not why don't they give a straight answer to those questions you posed, but why should they even bother to give a straight answer? They don't need to, and if they do they open themselves up to accepting responsibility, or to being held accountable. A most unecessary state of affairs from their point of view. As things are, people will still keep voting them in, admittedly with fewer votes, they are not accountable for their lies, and life rolls on as they feather their nests. The answer should be fairly simple. It is for the electorate to say, "We won't vote for you any more because you aren't worthy of my vote". Unfortunately, and I suppose it's fair to say who can blame them, too many voters on both sides of the political spectrum vote for selfish reasons. Having railed against New Labour for the last year on my blog I’m finding it harder to continue blaming them for all our ills. I’m coming around to the view that they are simply a reflection of modern society, after all, who expects David Cameron to be any different?

Politics is now an art of deception, half truths, lies and doublespeak, if not more so than in the past, it is certainly far more sophisticated in deception and evasion than ever before.

So the big question today is not why don’t they give a straight answer to those questions you posed, but why should they even bother to give a straight answer? They don’t need to, and if they do they open themselves up to accepting responsibility, or to being held accountable. A most unecessary state of affairs from their point of view.

As things are, people will still keep voting them in, admittedly with fewer votes, they are not accountable for their lies, and life rolls on as they feather their nests.

The answer should be fairly simple. It is for the electorate to say, “We won’t vote for you any more because you aren’t worthy of my vote”. Unfortunately, and I suppose it’s fair to say who can blame them, too many voters on both sides of the political spectrum vote for selfish reasons.

]]> By: Welshcakes Limoncello http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-4522 Welshcakes Limoncello Fri, 15 Dec 2006 23:10:20 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2006/12/15/questions-the-government-wont-answer/#comment-4522 Jim, give me a break! No, of course I don't suspect a media conspiracy! It's just that, if it had happened to me, I would have some difficulty facing the media but I suppose that's why I'd never make a politician. And I'm not even a bloody Tory, by the way so of course I'm not prejudiced. And while we're at it, Jim, re Catholicism, I never said I believed it and we all need a little myth in our lives now and then! Jim, give me a break! No, of course I don’t suspect a media conspiracy! It’s just that, if it had happened to me, I would have some difficulty facing the media but I suppose that’s why I’d never make a politician. And I’m not even a bloody Tory, by the way so of course I’m not prejudiced. And while we’re at it, Jim, re Catholicism, I never said I believed it and we all need a little myth in our lives now and then!

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