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		<title>By: Lawrence Kallenberger &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Brother And Sister Jokes #115</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence Kallenberger &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Brother And Sister Jokes #115</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 23:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ellee</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2007/09/21/how-many-women-could-handle-200-lovers/comment-page-1/#comment-72498</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nancy, some women can get away with it, others are regarded as sluts. I&#039;m sure Lady Churchill&#039;s charm would have won over the psychologists too. She obviously needed a lot of excitement and attention in her life, and, sex, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy, some women can get away with it, others are regarded as sluts. I&#8217;m sure Lady Churchill&#8217;s charm would have won over the psychologists too. She obviously needed a lot of excitement and attention in her life, and, sex, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 03:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what a &quot;modern&quot; psychology might have to say about Lady Churchill&#039;s many liaisons?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what a &#8220;modern&#8221; psychology might have to say about Lady Churchill&#8217;s many liaisons?</p>
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		<title>By: Ellee</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2007/09/21/how-many-women-could-handle-200-lovers/comment-page-1/#comment-63149</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dougjn, it sounds like Lady Churchill was very much in control. I really must read the book, she was an exceptional woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dougjn, it sounds like Lady Churchill was very much in control. I really must read the book, she was an exceptional woman.</p>
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		<title>By: dougjn</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2007/09/21/how-many-women-could-handle-200-lovers/comment-page-1/#comment-63148</link>
		<dc:creator>dougjn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The remarkable thing by the the standards of contemporary (and especially 50 years ago) American culture is not so much that she had that many lovers but that she had nearly all of them while married only three times, while at the pinnacle of British society, and while at least some of her activity, if probably not the true dimensions of it, were widely known or supposed.

There are two or three reasons for this.  Yes, the &quot;Edwardian&quot; period following the Victorian one, was a time of greatly relaxed standards regarding fidelity, particularly in the upper classes in Britain, as had e.g. the &quot;Restoration&quot; period following the Roundhead or Puritian ascendencies in the late 17th century.

More generally, in British and French aristocratic circles where arranged marriages were the almost invariable rule until recent times, extra maarital affairs for BOTH spouses were much more accepted than now, especially when the wife had equal or nearly equal social status in her own right and particularly when she brought in much or most of the money - as was the case with Lady Randolph Churchill.   

Still, Jennie Churchill took it very far for someone at her level.

Finally though I&#039;d like to note that there is a strong element of acceptance of cuckoldry by some elements of British society, especially upper class class society.  It may not be unrelated to the rather large amounts of homosexuality or bisexuality there as well.  Male esthetes and all.  In Britain this was not and is not thought to be an exclusively gay thing, and has at various times and places been associated with the liesure class, and high status and &quot;refinement&quot;.  I think it also has something to do with the code of male chivalry, which has nowhere been more pronounced than in England.  The code involves an ethic of one degree or another of male self sacrifice for the beautiful and perhaps unattainable or only partly attainable woman, who is worshiped and never really fully possessed.  This can lead rather easily towards allowing this &quot;goddess&quot;, who one is not really fully worthy of, to have extraordinary and even one sided freedom. [I think this is also a good part of the reason why feminism has gone further in the Anglosphere than anywhere else, including other European countries.]

When that sort of male attitude, or it&#039;s more extreme form, is married to a great beauty and unconventional thinker, in an era of greatly loosened sexual morality lead by the example of the Monarch himself, King Edward (one of Jeannie&#039;s lovers), one can get a Jeannie Churchill.

So - what I&#039;m suggesting is that an essential enabling (but not alone sufficient) reason for the phenomenon of Lady Jeannie Churchill was that her first husband (Lord Randolph Churchill who as a younger son of the Duke would not become Duke and whose son (Sir Winston Churchill) as twice removed would not become even an honorary Lord), was a permissive and probably willing cuckold (male sexual submissive), who very likely encouraged her sexual activities and got his own sexual charge from them.

So ladies if you want to follow in Jennie&#039;s footsteps 1) be really beautiful and witty to boot; and 2) more importantly, marry a socially prominent willing cuckold.  They&#039;re a lot harder to find in America, but are by no means non existent (particularly I think in gen X and esp. Y&#039;s with their often rather thorough feminist indoctrination).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The remarkable thing by the the standards of contemporary (and especially 50 years ago) American culture is not so much that she had that many lovers but that she had nearly all of them while married only three times, while at the pinnacle of British society, and while at least some of her activity, if probably not the true dimensions of it, were widely known or supposed.</p>
<p>There are two or three reasons for this.  Yes, the &#8220;Edwardian&#8221; period following the Victorian one, was a time of greatly relaxed standards regarding fidelity, particularly in the upper classes in Britain, as had e.g. the &#8220;Restoration&#8221; period following the Roundhead or Puritian ascendencies in the late 17th century.</p>
<p>More generally, in British and French aristocratic circles where arranged marriages were the almost invariable rule until recent times, extra maarital affairs for BOTH spouses were much more accepted than now, especially when the wife had equal or nearly equal social status in her own right and particularly when she brought in much or most of the money &#8211; as was the case with Lady Randolph Churchill.   </p>
<p>Still, Jennie Churchill took it very far for someone at her level.</p>
<p>Finally though I&#8217;d like to note that there is a strong element of acceptance of cuckoldry by some elements of British society, especially upper class class society.  It may not be unrelated to the rather large amounts of homosexuality or bisexuality there as well.  Male esthetes and all.  In Britain this was not and is not thought to be an exclusively gay thing, and has at various times and places been associated with the liesure class, and high status and &#8220;refinement&#8221;.  I think it also has something to do with the code of male chivalry, which has nowhere been more pronounced than in England.  The code involves an ethic of one degree or another of male self sacrifice for the beautiful and perhaps unattainable or only partly attainable woman, who is worshiped and never really fully possessed.  This can lead rather easily towards allowing this &#8220;goddess&#8221;, who one is not really fully worthy of, to have extraordinary and even one sided freedom. [I think this is also a good part of the reason why feminism has gone further in the Anglosphere than anywhere else, including other European countries.]</p>
<p>When that sort of male attitude, or it&#8217;s more extreme form, is married to a great beauty and unconventional thinker, in an era of greatly loosened sexual morality lead by the example of the Monarch himself, King Edward (one of Jeannie&#8217;s lovers), one can get a Jeannie Churchill.</p>
<p>So &#8211; what I&#8217;m suggesting is that an essential enabling (but not alone sufficient) reason for the phenomenon of Lady Jeannie Churchill was that her first husband (Lord Randolph Churchill who as a younger son of the Duke would not become Duke and whose son (Sir Winston Churchill) as twice removed would not become even an honorary Lord), was a permissive and probably willing cuckold (male sexual submissive), who very likely encouraged her sexual activities and got his own sexual charge from them.</p>
<p>So ladies if you want to follow in Jennie&#8217;s footsteps 1) be really beautiful and witty to boot; and 2) more importantly, marry a socially prominent willing cuckold.  They&#8217;re a lot harder to find in America, but are by no means non existent (particularly I think in gen X and esp. Y&#8217;s with their often rather thorough feminist indoctrination).</p>
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		<title>By: Matt W`</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt W`</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Errr. Annabel Chong. (Sorry)

Probably greater than the number of men could do the opposite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Errr. Annabel Chong. (Sorry)</p>
<p>Probably greater than the number of men could do the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: electro-kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>electro-kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 02:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The secret is to let the biggest one go first - you don&#039;t feel the rest after that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The secret is to let the biggest one go first &#8211; you don&#8217;t feel the rest after that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gledwood, I look forward to reading your memoirs. And you are right, Lady Churchill certainly was a stunner.
I read Jeffrey Archer&#039;s blog from time to time, he certainly gets invited to lots of great events still, no doubt about that, he&#039;s always at a first night for something or other, a guest speaker on a cruise, hosting a charity auction, at an art exhibition, a new play. He&#039;s done ok, despite everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gledwood, I look forward to reading your memoirs. And you are right, Lady Churchill certainly was a stunner.<br />
I read Jeffrey Archer&#8217;s blog from time to time, he certainly gets invited to lots of great events still, no doubt about that, he&#8217;s always at a first night for something or other, a guest speaker on a cruise, hosting a charity auction, at an art exhibition, a new play. He&#8217;s done ok, despite everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Gledwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gledwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s not bad looking, is she?!?
Wasn&#039;t Winston Churchill born in the lavatories at Blenheim Palace..?
Reading your political blog and about books reminded me... I found Jeffrey Archer&#039;s blog a couple of months ago:
http://jeffreyarchers.blogspot.com
it&#039;s really just a record of what charity dinners he went to that week but worth a look if you&#039;re into that kind of thing.
I&#039;m writing my memoirs as well so wish me luck!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s not bad looking, is she?!?<br />
Wasn&#8217;t Winston Churchill born in the lavatories at Blenheim Palace..?<br />
Reading your political blog and about books reminded me&#8230; I found Jeffrey Archer&#8217;s blog a couple of months ago:<br />
<a href="http://jeffreyarchers.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://jeffreyarchers.blogspot.com</a><br />
it&#8217;s really just a record of what charity dinners he went to that week but worth a look if you&#8217;re into that kind of thing.<br />
I&#8217;m writing my memoirs as well so wish me luck!!</p>
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		<title>By: Snuffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snuffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, I&#039;d settle for just one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, I&#8217;d settle for just one&#8230;</p>
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