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		<title>By: Does Google have too much power for our comfort? &#124; Daily Tech Tips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Does Google have too much power for our comfort? &#124; Daily Tech Tips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On a comment over at Ellee Seymour&#8217;s blog, Tim Almond asked me: â€œConsider the how the Internet is distorted by Google dominance. Thatâ€™s where it *could* end up.â€? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Does Google have too much power for our comfort? : 100 Days to Build a Better Blog</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2007/10/22/cambridge-residents-say-every-little-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-47425</link>
		<dc:creator>Does Google have too much power for our comfort? : 100 Days to Build a Better Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On a comment over at Ellee Seymour&#8217;s blog, Tim Almond asked me: â€œConsider the how the Internet is distorted by Google dominance. Thatâ€™s where it *could* end up.â€? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Does Google have too much power for our comfort? &#124; The Wardman Wire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Does Google have too much power for our comfort? &#124; The Wardman Wire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On a comment over at Ellee Seymour&#8217;s blog, Tim Almond asked me: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Humaniform &#187; Does Google have too much power for our comfort?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Humaniform &#187; Does Google have too much power for our comfort?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On a comment over at Ellee Seymour&#8217;s blog, Tim Almond asked me: â€œConsider the how the Internet is distorted by Google dominance. Thatâ€™s where it *could* end up.â€? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Wardman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Wardman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TIm&gt;How do Google distort the internet?

A huge question. 

I&#039;ve replied at some length here:

http://www.poliblogs.co.uk/blog/2007/10/does-google-have-too-much-power-for-our-comfort/

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TIm&gt;How do Google distort the internet?</p>
<p>A huge question. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve replied at some length here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.poliblogs.co.uk/blog/2007/10/does-google-have-too-much-power-for-our-comfort/" rel="nofollow">http://www.poliblogs.co.uk/blog/2007/10/does-google-have-too-much-power-for-our-comfort/</a></p>
<p>Matt</p>
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		<title>By: David Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A final note, not on the ethics this time: there is a question of the legal practicalities here.  Even if most or all councillors on Cambridge City Council are personally against Tesco opening up in Mill Road, they may well still give planning permission. The reason is that, if the council turns down the application and Tescos appeals to the planning inspectorate at the department of the Environment (is it still called that?) it will cost a lot of money in legal costs _ for both sides. And if the council loses, as it is very likely to, it will probably have to pay the legal costs of both sides _ and Tesco will be sure to employ a fleet of very expensive lawyers.  Therefore, if council officers advise councillors that Tesco would be likely to win on appeal, the councillors would be failing in their fiduciary duty to the council taxpayers of their area if they ran up legal costs pursuing a course of action which was bound to fail. Loathe as I am to defend a LibDem council, I often sorry for councils which get blamed by their voting public for agreeing to unpopular developments. The voters usually don&#039;t understand that whether a scheme goes ahead is more to do with planning law than anything else, not down to a simple matter of the majority opinion of councillors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A final note, not on the ethics this time: there is a question of the legal practicalities here.  Even if most or all councillors on Cambridge City Council are personally against Tesco opening up in Mill Road, they may well still give planning permission. The reason is that, if the council turns down the application and Tescos appeals to the planning inspectorate at the department of the Environment (is it still called that?) it will cost a lot of money in legal costs _ for both sides. And if the council loses, as it is very likely to, it will probably have to pay the legal costs of both sides _ and Tesco will be sure to employ a fleet of very expensive lawyers.  Therefore, if council officers advise councillors that Tesco would be likely to win on appeal, the councillors would be failing in their fiduciary duty to the council taxpayers of their area if they ran up legal costs pursuing a course of action which was bound to fail. Loathe as I am to defend a LibDem council, I often sorry for councils which get blamed by their voting public for agreeing to unpopular developments. The voters usually don&#8217;t understand that whether a scheme goes ahead is more to do with planning law than anything else, not down to a simple matter of the majority opinion of councillors.</p>
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		<title>By: jim jay</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few disjointed answers;

&quot;are they [other Tesco] reachable if you don&#039;t drive&quot; Yes. Ten minute walk. Four minute bike ride.

&quot;Sainsburyâ€™s is OK apparently&quot; well there isn&#039;t a sainsbury on Mill Road either. Mill Road is not completely chains free - but its getting close.

Quasar9 - I&#039;m very hopeful that the libdem run council will reject these proposals as we now have the official support of the cllrs and the MP plus the Labour opposition cllrs also support the campaign (although their parliamentary candidate is uncharacteristically quiet on this one). There are no Tory councillors in Cambridge so I don&#039;t know what the local Tory party&#039;s position is on this.

The elected cllrs know which side their bread is buttered on, but unfortunately unelected council officials will also have a say in this

David - it&#039;s interesting that you say that my arguments could be used as a justification for &quot;whites only&quot; and such like but I think that would only stand up if I felt this was the only important part of the argument. 

One of the very important aspects to this campaign specifically is its welcoming of diversity and pluralism in the community. It is not a campaign to preserve some mythical little england but one that is attempting to defend this conjunction of the old and new communities. This is what makes Mill Road so special. In my opinion its important to take arguments in context. 

I agree however that one important and difficult democratic question is that of the balance between the rights of minorities and the will of the majority. However, it is only with a very special kind of squint can we view Tesco as a victimised minority. In fact it is the Mill Road community that is the David to its Goliath, and as such I&#039;m happy for the small community to be getting its way for once.

One commentator asks &quot;Do they offer the range, the prices and the convenience available at Tescos?&quot; The answer can be seen at the campaign website where we did a price comparision and discovered that contrary to popular opinion tesco *express* is actually more expensive than the shop in the local community and certainly does not have the range available in Mill Road (but then again where does?)

What Tesco have is financial muscle not available to local traders and the ability to absorb losses in order to drive out of business local competition. We don&#039;t want to get to that stage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few disjointed answers;</p>
<p>&#8220;are they [other Tesco] reachable if you don&#8217;t drive&#8221; Yes. Ten minute walk. Four minute bike ride.</p>
<p>&#8220;Sainsburyâ€™s is OK apparently&#8221; well there isn&#8217;t a sainsbury on Mill Road either. Mill Road is not completely chains free &#8211; but its getting close.</p>
<p>Quasar9 &#8211; I&#8217;m very hopeful that the libdem run council will reject these proposals as we now have the official support of the cllrs and the MP plus the Labour opposition cllrs also support the campaign (although their parliamentary candidate is uncharacteristically quiet on this one). There are no Tory councillors in Cambridge so I don&#8217;t know what the local Tory party&#8217;s position is on this.</p>
<p>The elected cllrs know which side their bread is buttered on, but unfortunately unelected council officials will also have a say in this</p>
<p>David &#8211; it&#8217;s interesting that you say that my arguments could be used as a justification for &#8220;whites only&#8221; and such like but I think that would only stand up if I felt this was the only important part of the argument. </p>
<p>One of the very important aspects to this campaign specifically is its welcoming of diversity and pluralism in the community. It is not a campaign to preserve some mythical little england but one that is attempting to defend this conjunction of the old and new communities. This is what makes Mill Road so special. In my opinion its important to take arguments in context. </p>
<p>I agree however that one important and difficult democratic question is that of the balance between the rights of minorities and the will of the majority. However, it is only with a very special kind of squint can we view Tesco as a victimised minority. In fact it is the Mill Road community that is the David to its Goliath, and as such I&#8217;m happy for the small community to be getting its way for once.</p>
<p>One commentator asks &#8220;Do they offer the range, the prices and the convenience available at Tescos?&#8221; The answer can be seen at the campaign website where we did a price comparision and discovered that contrary to popular opinion tesco *express* is actually more expensive than the shop in the local community and certainly does not have the range available in Mill Road (but then again where does?)</p>
<p>What Tesco have is financial muscle not available to local traders and the ability to absorb losses in order to drive out of business local competition. We don&#8217;t want to get to that stage.</p>
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		<title>By: Quasar9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quasar9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David Brain,
I&#039;m sure the Lib Dem led Cambridge City Council (Planning Cttee) will give Tesco the thumbs up, unless there is very vocal opposition from &#039;local&#039; businesses, &#039;local&#039; people &amp; &#039;local&#039; Councillors. One can sometimes almost be delluded into thinking that democracy exists, the only thing is one can never be sure which &#039;demos&#039; and which &#039;cratos&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David Brain,<br />
I&#8217;m sure the Lib Dem led Cambridge City Council (Planning Cttee) will give Tesco the thumbs up, unless there is very vocal opposition from &#8216;local&#8217; businesses, &#8216;local&#8217; people &amp; &#8216;local&#8217; Councillors. One can sometimes almost be delluded into thinking that democracy exists, the only thing is one can never be sure which &#8216;demos&#8217; and which &#8216;cratos&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom&#8217;s comment</p>
<p>&#8220;I was glad to leave Cambridge, where I lived and worked for a few years. It has such a high proportion of underemployed Statist busybodies (aka academics and their often even more sanctimonious spouses) that I spent too much of my working life as a lawyer filing planning objections to any project that might actually improve the lives of the ungowned without the marbled halls.</p>
<p>As a libertarian who sees no earthly reason why the state should dictate what people do on their own land, I found it an unpleasantly negative and destructive way to make a living. I found the Cromwellian-Marxist, bicycle-calved, holier-than-thou clients deeply disturbing too. I worry about them poisoning the mind of my beloved daughter, currently studying there. She tells me it is still every bit the KGB Staff College so lovingly depicted by its BBC graduates in â€œCambridge Spies.â€? </p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t have put it better myself.</p>
<p>Far too many freeloaders in the UK. Perhaps the surge of immigration will get them off their pathetic arses.</p>
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