Comments on: Has anyone died in the Houses of Parliament? http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/ PRESS CONSULTANT, JOURNALIST, GHOSTWRITER, POLITICAL AND PR BLOGGER. Fri, 25 May 2012 21:07:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Richard http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-49906 Richard Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:31:19 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/#comment-49906 Has anyone died in the Houses of Parliament? Yes, a Tory Welsh Office Minister in the early 1980s (by the surname of Roberts) who had a heart attack at the dispatch box (during Welsh Office Questions). Has anyone died in the Houses of Parliament? Yes, a Tory Welsh Office Minister in the early 1980s (by the surname of Roberts) who had a heart attack at the dispatch box (during Welsh Office Questions).

]]> By: Paul Linford http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-48773 Paul Linford Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:55:11 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/#comment-48773 David Boothroyd is right. The last person to die in the Commons Chamber was the Welsh Office minister Michael Roberts in February 1983, although the polite fiction that he died at St Thomas's Hospital was applied. Four years earlier there was the incident involving Labour Deputy Chief Whip Walter Harrison wheeling a gravely ill MP into the voting lobbies on a stretcher during the vote of confidence on the Callaghan government. The Tory whip John Stradling Thomas challenged his right to do so on the grounds that the MP concerned was clearly dead, but Harrison managed to convince him he was alive, although he did die a couple of days later. David Boothroyd is right. The last person to die in the Commons Chamber was the Welsh Office minister Michael Roberts in February 1983, although the polite fiction that he died at St Thomas’s Hospital was applied.

Four years earlier there was the incident involving Labour Deputy Chief Whip Walter Harrison wheeling a gravely ill MP into the voting lobbies on a stretcher during the vote of confidence on the Callaghan government. The Tory whip John Stradling Thomas challenged his right to do so on the grounds that the MP concerned was clearly dead, but Harrison managed to convince him he was alive, although he did die a couple of days later.

]]> By: Garry http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-48639 Garry Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:42:43 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/#comment-48639 This really is getting rather bizarre. Ellee, you say: <blockquote>[T]he fact is that no comment has been deleted. One was held up in comment moderation while I was out and later published...</blockquote> The fact is that several comments <i>have</i> been removed from the thread Clive links to above. Even if I hadn't seen the comments in question with my own eyes while submitting my own comments, anyone who reads the thread now can clearly see that some comments have been removed. David has made similar observations regarding this thread. I'm not sure what you hope to gain by suggesting that no comments have been removed as it demonstrably isn't true. Also, can I take this opportunity to point out that I politely asked you a couple of questions in that thread but didn't get a response. Just a friendly reminder in case you've forgotten. This really is getting rather bizarre.

Ellee, you say:

[T]he fact is that no comment has been deleted. One was held up in comment moderation while I was out and later published…

The fact is that several comments have been removed from the thread Clive links to above. Even if I hadn’t seen the comments in question with my own eyes while submitting my own comments, anyone who reads the thread now can clearly see that some comments have been removed. David has made similar observations regarding this thread.

I’m not sure what you hope to gain by suggesting that no comments have been removed as it demonstrably isn’t true.

Also, can I take this opportunity to point out that I politely asked you a couple of questions in that thread but didn’t get a response. Just a friendly reminder in case you’ve forgotten.

]]> By: Clive http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-48630 Clive Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:36:52 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/#comment-48630 Jherad, I noticed a similar occurence on the following thread yesterday: http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/my-sympathies-for-nadine Jherad, I noticed a similar occurence on the following thread yesterday:

http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/my-sympathies-for-nadine

]]> By: Jherad http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-48625 Jherad Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:36:06 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/#comment-48625 Ellee, if none of Tim's comments have been deleted, then some of your threads ready very strangely... For example. Tim has complained about the fact that you've left a really nasty smear against him here: http://www.elleeseymour.com/2007/02/02/what-a-sensational-week-4/#comment-10044 Whilst deleting his comments. If you *haven't* deleted his comments, then why does this 'Teri' start laying into Tim? The (remaining) thread doesn't mention him before then... Ellee, if none of Tim’s comments have been deleted, then some of your threads ready very strangely…

For example. Tim has complained about the fact that you’ve left a really nasty smear against him here:

http://www.elleeseymour.com/2007/02/02/what-a-sensational-week-4/#comment-10044

Whilst deleting his comments. If you *haven’t* deleted his comments, then why does this ‘Teri’ start laying into Tim? The (remaining) thread doesn’t mention him before then…

]]> By: David Boothroyd http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-48620 David Boothroyd Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:10:51 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/#comment-48620 Why, in this thread, are you responding to a "Tim"? There are no comments from a "Tim" in this thread. Either you are having a conversation with a ghost or the comments have been deleted. Why, in this thread, are you responding to a “Tim”? There are no comments from a “Tim” in this thread. Either you are having a conversation with a ghost or the comments have been deleted.

]]> By: Ellee http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-48618 Ellee Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:01:06 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/#comment-48618 David, the fact is that no comment has been deleted. One was held up in comment moderation while I was out and later published. That seemed to upset him, and the same with his trolls when it happened to them too because I was out. Also because I refused to give him the IP address of a blogger who criticised him, he has turned against me in this way. I shall always protect the confidential information of people who post comments here. My credibility is firmly in tact. I shall not give in to any intimidation and threats. David, the fact is that no comment has been deleted. One was held up in comment moderation while I was out and later published. That seemed to upset him, and the same with his trolls when it happened to them too because I was out. Also because I refused to give him the IP address of a blogger who criticised him, he has turned against me in this way. I shall always protect the confidential information of people who post comments here. My credibility is firmly in tact. I shall not give in to any intimidation and threats.

]]> By: David Boothroyd http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-48617 David Boothroyd Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:54:08 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/#comment-48617 Spencer Perceval was actually still living when he was removed to a nearby house. But there are examples of people dying in Parliament: Welsh office minister Michael Roberts dropped dead at the despatch box in 1983 while making a speech, and Lord Montague of Oxford died in the chamber of the House of Lords shortly after finishing a speech in 1999. Then there is the tragic case of Airey Neave. PS Ellee, I do think that Tim Ireland has you banged to rights on this one. You would regain a lot of credibility if you no longer claimed that you had not deleted his comments. Spencer Perceval was actually still living when he was removed to a nearby house. But there are examples of people dying in Parliament: Welsh office minister Michael Roberts dropped dead at the despatch box in 1983 while making a speech, and Lord Montague of Oxford died in the chamber of the House of Lords shortly after finishing a speech in 1999. Then there is the tragic case of Airey Neave.

PS Ellee, I do think that Tim Ireland has you banged to rights on this one. You would regain a lot of credibility if you no longer claimed that you had not deleted his comments.

]]> By: Dave Cross http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-48612 Dave Cross Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:07:18 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/#comment-48612 <blockquote>I haven’t censored one word of Tim Ireland. Maybe he censored himself.</blockquote> Then why do you seem to be having a one-sided conversation with someone called Tim on this page? <blockquote>Tim, Regarding your request, I regard it as confidential information and am not prepared to pass it on.</blockquote> Where's Tim's half of the conversation?

I haven’t censored one word of Tim Ireland. Maybe he censored himself.

Then why do you seem to be having a one-sided conversation with someone called Tim on this page?

Tim, Regarding your request, I regard it as confidential information and am not prepared to pass it on.

Where’s Tim’s half of the conversation?

]]> By: Ellee http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-48610 Ellee Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:57:03 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2007/11/06/has-anyone-died-in-the-houses-of-parliament/#comment-48610 Jherad, I haven't censored one word of Tim Ireland. Maybe he censored himself. Jherad, I haven’t censored one word of Tim Ireland. Maybe he censored himself.

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