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	<title>Comments on: How can boxing be called sport?</title>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2007/12/10/how-can-boxing-be-called-sport/comment-page-1/#comment-55028</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have to ban anything then there&#039;s obviously a market for it. Ban it, and that market will be satisified by the unscrupulous and uncontrolled. Alcohol, porn, drugs...

Boxing is far safer than most sports including many of the so-called non-contact variety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have to ban anything then there&#8217;s obviously a market for it. Ban it, and that market will be satisified by the unscrupulous and uncontrolled. Alcohol, porn, drugs&#8230;</p>
<p>Boxing is far safer than most sports including many of the so-called non-contact variety.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Sheppard</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2007/12/10/how-can-boxing-be-called-sport/comment-page-1/#comment-54975</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Sheppard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its interesting when we compare how we treat animals and humans. You could use a similar argument for putting an animal out of its misery (who can&#039;t chose) and apply it to the debate about humans who may also choose the right to die, who in many cases can choose. Sometimes i do think we treat animals better than humans.

On boxing I agree with Tom Paine. People choose to enter the ring, and as such I don&#039;t think you can compare it to the likes of dog fighting etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its interesting when we compare how we treat animals and humans. You could use a similar argument for putting an animal out of its misery (who can&#8217;t chose) and apply it to the debate about humans who may also choose the right to die, who in many cases can choose. Sometimes i do think we treat animals better than humans.</p>
<p>On boxing I agree with Tom Paine. People choose to enter the ring, and as such I don&#8217;t think you can compare it to the likes of dog fighting etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Risdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Risdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never read anything so patronising in my life, from the comparison with toddlers to the final, breathtaking assumption that it is for you to decide how to &quot;treat&quot; men in the same way that you make such decisions for dogs.

The way to handle the male instinct for confrontation and combat is to channel it into sport, not ban it and force it both underground and into the streets and pubs. Humans are not the only species in which males have this instinct. Whether you like it or not is beside the point.

Boxing is one of the original sports, included in the original Olympics. Of course it&#039;s a sport. Synchronised swimming is a less certain claimant to the name.

The fact that injury is a possible outcome of an activity is not a reason to ban the activity. Where would you stop? Rugby? Motor racing? Rock climbing? Would Mohammed Ali go back in time and spend his life as a motor mechanic to avoid the brain injury he suffered? I strongly doubt it. Even when injury does result that does not necessarily suggest tragedy.

For heaven&#039;s sake. You&#039;re entitled to dislike boxing. Other people are entitled to like it and you are NOT entitled to prohibit their consensual activities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never read anything so patronising in my life, from the comparison with toddlers to the final, breathtaking assumption that it is for you to decide how to &#8220;treat&#8221; men in the same way that you make such decisions for dogs.</p>
<p>The way to handle the male instinct for confrontation and combat is to channel it into sport, not ban it and force it both underground and into the streets and pubs. Humans are not the only species in which males have this instinct. Whether you like it or not is beside the point.</p>
<p>Boxing is one of the original sports, included in the original Olympics. Of course it&#8217;s a sport. Synchronised swimming is a less certain claimant to the name.</p>
<p>The fact that injury is a possible outcome of an activity is not a reason to ban the activity. Where would you stop? Rugby? Motor racing? Rock climbing? Would Mohammed Ali go back in time and spend his life as a motor mechanic to avoid the brain injury he suffered? I strongly doubt it. Even when injury does result that does not necessarily suggest tragedy.</p>
<p>For heaven&#8217;s sake. You&#8217;re entitled to dislike boxing. Other people are entitled to like it and you are NOT entitled to prohibit their consensual activities.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnofScribbleSheet</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnofScribbleSheet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am surprised Hamilton didnt win. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised Hamilton didnt win. <img src='http://elleeseymour.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Philipa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ellee, was channel hopping over lunch and saw on &#039;The Wright Stuff&#039; that 80% of professional boxers sustain &lt;i&gt;serious&lt;/i&gt; brain damage. 

The argument of injury being possible in other sports is not valid as in boxing head injury is &lt;i&gt;the point&lt;/i&gt; and not accidental.

On that prog I mentioned, it was stated that it has been mooted that boxing is taught in schools. If some chaps are bent on violence anyway and it can be done more safely in a boxing ring then fine, but I see the danger now of glorifying this as a sport - there is no way my boy is doing this at school. And of course if I prevent him he would be bullied. I have completely changed my view Ellee and jumped off the fence - IT SHOULD BE BANNED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ellee, was channel hopping over lunch and saw on &#8216;The Wright Stuff&#8217; that 80% of professional boxers sustain <i>serious</i> brain damage. </p>
<p>The argument of injury being possible in other sports is not valid as in boxing head injury is <i>the point</i> and not accidental.</p>
<p>On that prog I mentioned, it was stated that it has been mooted that boxing is taught in schools. If some chaps are bent on violence anyway and it can be done more safely in a boxing ring then fine, but I see the danger now of glorifying this as a sport &#8211; there is no way my boy is doing this at school. And of course if I prevent him he would be bullied. I have completely changed my view Ellee and jumped off the fence &#8211; IT SHOULD BE BANNED.</p>
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		<title>By: Welshcakes Limoncello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Welshcakes Limoncello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s barbaric, too - but then, I hate all sport!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s barbaric, too &#8211; but then, I hate all sport!</p>
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		<title>By: electro-kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>electro-kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t say such silly things, Ellee - other people do :-)

I feel that there are much more effective and less harmful martial arts, Mens Sana.  Actually Mixed Martial Arts (or cage fighting as it is called) use grappling gloves so thin that it virtually is bare knuckle.  The rules and realism of this sport mean that boxing is rendered ineffective and the fighters more often resort to grappling rather than battering each other&#039;s brains out.  Most fights are won by submission rather than knock out - the head is no longer the principle target whereas chokes and arm bars are the desired techniques.  The contests are well refereed and the contestants as disciplined and honourable as they are in boxing.

I find boxing boring and stupid by comparison to MMA which is far more intelligent and skillful in my view.  It offers the very same outlets to kids as boxing too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t say such silly things, Ellee &#8211; other people do <img src='http://elleeseymour.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I feel that there are much more effective and less harmful martial arts, Mens Sana.  Actually Mixed Martial Arts (or cage fighting as it is called) use grappling gloves so thin that it virtually is bare knuckle.  The rules and realism of this sport mean that boxing is rendered ineffective and the fighters more often resort to grappling rather than battering each other&#8217;s brains out.  Most fights are won by submission rather than knock out &#8211; the head is no longer the principle target whereas chokes and arm bars are the desired techniques.  The contests are well refereed and the contestants as disciplined and honourable as they are in boxing.</p>
<p>I find boxing boring and stupid by comparison to MMA which is far more intelligent and skillful in my view.  It offers the very same outlets to kids as boxing too.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven_L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven_L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should we ban rally driving too?  What about horse racing?  Deep-sea fishing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should we ban rally driving too?  What about horse racing?  Deep-sea fishing?</p>
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		<title>By: Ellee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mens sana, I&#039;m surprised at your comment, and you a consultant too. I wonder if studies have been carried out to see if bareknuckle fighting does take over once boxing is banned. It is already banned in some countries -
Icleand, Slovenia, New Guindea, Norway, Cuba and Iran, according to this link:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-125703.html

Kevin, you are far from thick, don&#039;t say such silly things.

My concern about this is the terrible injuries it inflicts, I can&#039;t imagine anyone in their right mind wanting to put themselves up for a beating - and then call it sport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mens sana, I&#8217;m surprised at your comment, and you a consultant too. I wonder if studies have been carried out to see if bareknuckle fighting does take over once boxing is banned. It is already banned in some countries -<br />
Icleand, Slovenia, New Guindea, Norway, Cuba and Iran, according to this link:<br />
<a href="http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-125703.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-125703.html</a></p>
<p>Kevin, you are far from thick, don&#8217;t say such silly things.</p>
<p>My concern about this is the terrible injuries it inflicts, I can&#8217;t imagine anyone in their right mind wanting to put themselves up for a beating &#8211; and then call it sport.</p>
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		<title>By: mens sana</title>
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		<dc:creator>mens sana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ban it and it goes to bareknuckle fighting without rules.  Like it or not it is an innate part of men&#039;s makeup that many of them will want to gamble on the results of fights between other men and as long as there is money in it people will do it. (actually I suspect that some men will want to do it even without a financial incentive).  It may  not give many a route out of poverty, but it does give young men a vent for aggression, as well as discipline and fitness.  It is also a highly skilled art.  I agree it&#039;s not a very appealing art, but nor are many other aspects of the world we live in. Sorry Ellee-I think you have to live with it, but not enjoy it or encourage it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ban it and it goes to bareknuckle fighting without rules.  Like it or not it is an innate part of men&#8217;s makeup that many of them will want to gamble on the results of fights between other men and as long as there is money in it people will do it. (actually I suspect that some men will want to do it even without a financial incentive).  It may  not give many a route out of poverty, but it does give young men a vent for aggression, as well as discipline and fitness.  It is also a highly skilled art.  I agree it&#8217;s not a very appealing art, but nor are many other aspects of the world we live in. Sorry Ellee-I think you have to live with it, but not enjoy it or encourage it.</p>
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