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	<title>Comments on: Do our kids have the same hunger to succeed?</title>
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		<title>By: Gledwood</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2007/12/13/do-our-kids-have-the-hunger-to-succeed/comment-page-1/#comment-55876</link>
		<dc:creator>Gledwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ellee how are you this dank and chilly time of year?!?

Do the kids have the same desire to succeed? No! They all want to be halfbaked Big Brother &quot;Celebs&quot; and footballers&#039; wives!

Also I CURSE nasty Red Ken for giving the yukky younger generation who mostly pile on wailing, screaming making all sorts of kerfuffle to cram the place up for walking-distance journeys on our public buses... give free travel to a more deserving sector of the community Nasty Red Ken. Not brattish schoolkids!

Have a VERY HAPPY FESTIVETIDE

and an ENTERTAINING NEW YEAR!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ellee how are you this dank and chilly time of year?!?</p>
<p>Do the kids have the same desire to succeed? No! They all want to be halfbaked Big Brother &#8220;Celebs&#8221; and footballers&#8217; wives!</p>
<p>Also I CURSE nasty Red Ken for giving the yukky younger generation who mostly pile on wailing, screaming making all sorts of kerfuffle to cram the place up for walking-distance journeys on our public buses&#8230; give free travel to a more deserving sector of the community Nasty Red Ken. Not brattish schoolkids!</p>
<p>Have a VERY HAPPY FESTIVETIDE</p>
<p>and an ENTERTAINING NEW YEAR!!</p>
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		<title>By: Welshcakes Limoncello</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2007/12/13/do-our-kids-have-the-hunger-to-succeed/comment-page-1/#comment-55732</link>
		<dc:creator>Welshcakes Limoncello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaah, it&#039;s Christmas, Ellee - give them a break!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaah, it&#8217;s Christmas, Ellee &#8211; give them a break!</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Lidster</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2007/12/13/do-our-kids-have-the-hunger-to-succeed/comment-page-1/#comment-55540</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Lidster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately it&#039;s all too often a boy thing these days. And that&#039;s potentially tragic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately it&#8217;s all too often a boy thing these days. And that&#8217;s potentially tragic.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Havers</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2007/12/13/do-our-kids-have-the-hunger-to-succeed/comment-page-1/#comment-55530</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Havers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of being trite we have become somewhat soft. We need to understand a little bit more about failure. Life is not a steady upward sloping curve. And it&#039;s not just kids that have little grasp of the concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of being trite we have become somewhat soft. We need to understand a little bit more about failure. Life is not a steady upward sloping curve. And it&#8217;s not just kids that have little grasp of the concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Philipa</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2007/12/13/do-our-kids-have-the-hunger-to-succeed/comment-page-1/#comment-55519</link>
		<dc:creator>Philipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sally - I too don&#039;t force learning on my children but try to make fun activities a learning experience. We read and discuss things and make up games (I&#039;ll be making them Latin verb bingo for xmas) and visit museums where you can find some great stuff. I&#039;ve heard there&#039;s a fantastic new exhibition at the Science museum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sally &#8211; I too don&#8217;t force learning on my children but try to make fun activities a learning experience. We read and discuss things and make up games (I&#8217;ll be making them Latin verb bingo for xmas) and visit museums where you can find some great stuff. I&#8217;ve heard there&#8217;s a fantastic new exhibition at the Science museum.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, I found your comment absolutely fascinating. If only we could turn the clock back, hey? The fact is parents were not into education when we were at school, my father had a minimum education and my Greek mother married at 16 and moved to England, so neither of them motivated me in any way. I always knew when I was at school that I wanted to study European history and foreign languages, I wanted to learn French and Spanish and be really fluent, but it was not available. I could never read enough books, sometimes two a day, and would attend extra evening classes in my favourite subject, English Literature, which I took a year early and passed with a grade A. So I enthused myself the best I could, but would loved to have gone to a better school myself.

Interesting to note the strong parental role you play in your sons&#039; education today. They do need to have that discipline if they want to succeed, which is why I know they will do brilliantly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, I found your comment absolutely fascinating. If only we could turn the clock back, hey? The fact is parents were not into education when we were at school, my father had a minimum education and my Greek mother married at 16 and moved to England, so neither of them motivated me in any way. I always knew when I was at school that I wanted to study European history and foreign languages, I wanted to learn French and Spanish and be really fluent, but it was not available. I could never read enough books, sometimes two a day, and would attend extra evening classes in my favourite subject, English Literature, which I took a year early and passed with a grade A. So I enthused myself the best I could, but would loved to have gone to a better school myself.</p>
<p>Interesting to note the strong parental role you play in your sons&#8217; education today. They do need to have that discipline if they want to succeed, which is why I know they will do brilliantly.</p>
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		<title>By: sally</title>
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		<dc:creator>sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 2 boys hate learning.. and i don&#039;t force it on them they will find there way in the end.. and all i want is for them to be happy....They only have me and I don&#039;t want them to think of me as a nagging mum and hate me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 2 boys hate learning.. and i don&#8217;t force it on them they will find there way in the end.. and all i want is for them to be happy&#8230;.They only have me and I don&#8217;t want them to think of me as a nagging mum and hate me.</p>
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		<title>By: electro-kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>electro-kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could limit access to computers, PS3 whatever.  This might not change anything though.  My fixation was my guitar and I became very good at this when I ought to have been learning my differential calculus. They need to be enthused about what they are learning and to be excited that they have the opportunity of a great future if only they&#039;d push for it.  What I&#039;d give to swap places.

My problem was that I went to a poor school,  the real blame was with me is that I wasn&#039;t interested either and That I had no idea how to manage my study or the massive amount of information required at &#039;A&#039; level.  I&#039;d stayed on in sixth form because I was told to &quot;There&#039;s nothing for you outside&quot;.  Having scraped 4 &#039;O&#039; levels I really ought not to have stayed on to struggle with &#039;A&#039; levels - I would have been much better off being sent out to learn a trade or joining the army.  The teachers conspired to give my parents decent school reports because they were short of pupils and needed me to keep their departments open.  Such a waste of my time.  My parents had no idea what &#039;O&#039; or &#039;A&#039; levels were and astonishingly they were convinced - until I told then recently aged 40 - that I&#039;d passed (I failed all of my &#039;A&#039;levels.) such was the deception.

I&#039;ve been guilt ridden ever since and have studied something or other ever since.  I went on to take an ONC in construction, I then took an &#039;A&#039; level in law (aged 30) and then followed that after 4 years of correspondence study with my Chartered Institute of Transport Diploma (the best thing I learned from this was how to touch-type. Not particularly useful study) I also took guitar gradings (7) and my karate black belt.  It helps so much to really enjoy what you are learning about. 

But back to school - It didn&#039;t help that my school was like a Borstal (4 convicted murderers in the time I was there)but my paradigm was limited in a fairly grotty area and I really didn&#039;t know that my experience was abnormal.  I went on a biology field trip aged 18 years and it was there that I mixed with students from a top comprehensive and was completely humiliated by the experience - rather too late.

If my boys ever struggle I will see it as a sign that I need to help them find the right direction for their aptitude.  I&#039;d rather they be good plumbers than bad doctors.

Goodness, that was cathartic.  Thank you, Ellee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could limit access to computers, PS3 whatever.  This might not change anything though.  My fixation was my guitar and I became very good at this when I ought to have been learning my differential calculus. They need to be enthused about what they are learning and to be excited that they have the opportunity of a great future if only they&#8217;d push for it.  What I&#8217;d give to swap places.</p>
<p>My problem was that I went to a poor school,  the real blame was with me is that I wasn&#8217;t interested either and That I had no idea how to manage my study or the massive amount of information required at &#8216;A&#8217; level.  I&#8217;d stayed on in sixth form because I was told to &#8220;There&#8217;s nothing for you outside&#8221;.  Having scraped 4 &#8216;O&#8217; levels I really ought not to have stayed on to struggle with &#8216;A&#8217; levels &#8211; I would have been much better off being sent out to learn a trade or joining the army.  The teachers conspired to give my parents decent school reports because they were short of pupils and needed me to keep their departments open.  Such a waste of my time.  My parents had no idea what &#8216;O&#8217; or &#8216;A&#8217; levels were and astonishingly they were convinced &#8211; until I told then recently aged 40 &#8211; that I&#8217;d passed (I failed all of my &#8216;A&#8217;levels.) such was the deception.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been guilt ridden ever since and have studied something or other ever since.  I went on to take an ONC in construction, I then took an &#8216;A&#8217; level in law (aged 30) and then followed that after 4 years of correspondence study with my Chartered Institute of Transport Diploma (the best thing I learned from this was how to touch-type. Not particularly useful study) I also took guitar gradings (7) and my karate black belt.  It helps so much to really enjoy what you are learning about. </p>
<p>But back to school &#8211; It didn&#8217;t help that my school was like a Borstal (4 convicted murderers in the time I was there)but my paradigm was limited in a fairly grotty area and I really didn&#8217;t know that my experience was abnormal.  I went on a biology field trip aged 18 years and it was there that I mixed with students from a top comprehensive and was completely humiliated by the experience &#8211; rather too late.</p>
<p>If my boys ever struggle I will see it as a sign that I need to help them find the right direction for their aptitude.  I&#8217;d rather they be good plumbers than bad doctors.</p>
<p>Goodness, that was cathartic.  Thank you, Ellee.</p>
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		<title>By: electro-kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>electro-kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We force our boys to sit for 45 minutes an evening and do their homework(Both are 9.)
I dread it ... Aargh !  Never has the phrase &#039;You can take a horse to water ...&#039; been more apt.

You&#039;re right to worry.  Not because you NEED to worry,  but because it&#039;s your JOB to worry.  I think your boys will be fine and this is partly because you have your foot on the gas - the other reason is that they are obviously bright chaps. Don&#039;t burn yourself out about it and try not to lose sleep.  You&#039;re doing your best and that&#039;s all that can be asked of you.

My education went badly wrong at a crucial stage. Remember this though - it can always be put right later in life and a career can be forged well into a person&#039;s thirties nowadays. I know a doctor who took his &#039;A&#039; levels in his twenties. 

It becomes much more complicated when they have children of their own and they are in the doldrums -that&#039;s a terrible trap.  Otherwise things are easy to put right so long as there&#039;s Mum and Dad to support them when they find they need to go back to school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We force our boys to sit for 45 minutes an evening and do their homework(Both are 9.)<br />
I dread it &#8230; Aargh !  Never has the phrase &#8216;You can take a horse to water &#8230;&#8217; been more apt.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right to worry.  Not because you NEED to worry,  but because it&#8217;s your JOB to worry.  I think your boys will be fine and this is partly because you have your foot on the gas &#8211; the other reason is that they are obviously bright chaps. Don&#8217;t burn yourself out about it and try not to lose sleep.  You&#8217;re doing your best and that&#8217;s all that can be asked of you.</p>
<p>My education went badly wrong at a crucial stage. Remember this though &#8211; it can always be put right later in life and a career can be forged well into a person&#8217;s thirties nowadays. I know a doctor who took his &#8216;A&#8217; levels in his twenties. </p>
<p>It becomes much more complicated when they have children of their own and they are in the doldrums -that&#8217;s a terrible trap.  Otherwise things are easy to put right so long as there&#8217;s Mum and Dad to support them when they find they need to go back to school.</p>
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		<title>By: Flowerpot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flowerpot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this was a wonderful story and hope it inspires many more people to want to learn. I don&#039;t remember being hungry to &#039;learn&#039; but I was always hungry to read as a child. Doing a course now, when I&#039;m nearly 50 is wonderful - I&#039;m learning so much because I want to rather than having it forced on me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this was a wonderful story and hope it inspires many more people to want to learn. I don&#8217;t remember being hungry to &#8216;learn&#8217; but I was always hungry to read as a child. Doing a course now, when I&#8217;m nearly 50 is wonderful &#8211; I&#8217;m learning so much because I want to rather than having it forced on me.</p>
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