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		<title>By: Ellee</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2008/04/06/i-can-sympathise-with-naomi/comment-page-1/#comment-213099</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 07:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beau, I am really pleased to hear you had a much more positive experience, and I appreciate your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beau, I am really pleased to hear you had a much more positive experience, and I appreciate your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Beau Doidge</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2008/04/06/i-can-sympathise-with-naomi/comment-page-1/#comment-212831</link>
		<dc:creator>Beau Doidge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 14:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just graduated from Anglia Ruskin University and have to say that I have had NO negative experiences during my three years whatsoever. In fact I was recommended to go there by a close family friend who also found the experience rewarding and now works for a national newspaper in America. I understand freedom of speech and that Naomi felt she was being treated unfairly but I do also agree that posting a video on YouTube was not the best way to go about it, it is a relatively new, and promising University that is entitled to call itself just that. I and alot of my friends from Ruskin believe that you have tarnished the University name and put a lot of people off accepting places there purely because of your own negative experience which seems totally unfair. 

Whilst I sympathise with your issue, I feel that you should have made it clear that YOUR course in particular was disorganised and that you feel something needed to be said about it instead of essentially helping to black list the University as a whole. Many talented individuals (before my time and yours) have come out of Anglia Ruskin and it doesn&#039;t seem fair that the University (which already dwells in the shadow of Cambridge University) should be subjected to more bad press when it really does not deserve it.

I&#039;m not saying it should have been swept under the carpet, or that you should have been suspended. But the fact remains that many Students and friends and families of those students felt disheartened and somewhat embaressed by your YouTube video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just graduated from Anglia Ruskin University and have to say that I have had NO negative experiences during my three years whatsoever. In fact I was recommended to go there by a close family friend who also found the experience rewarding and now works for a national newspaper in America. I understand freedom of speech and that Naomi felt she was being treated unfairly but I do also agree that posting a video on YouTube was not the best way to go about it, it is a relatively new, and promising University that is entitled to call itself just that. I and alot of my friends from Ruskin believe that you have tarnished the University name and put a lot of people off accepting places there purely because of your own negative experience which seems totally unfair. </p>
<p>Whilst I sympathise with your issue, I feel that you should have made it clear that YOUR course in particular was disorganised and that you feel something needed to be said about it instead of essentially helping to black list the University as a whole. Many talented individuals (before my time and yours) have come out of Anglia Ruskin and it doesn&#8217;t seem fair that the University (which already dwells in the shadow of Cambridge University) should be subjected to more bad press when it really does not deserve it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying it should have been swept under the carpet, or that you should have been suspended. But the fact remains that many Students and friends and families of those students felt disheartened and somewhat embaressed by your YouTube video.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellee</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2008/04/06/i-can-sympathise-with-naomi/comment-page-1/#comment-90580</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naomi, learning should be a fun experience too, I&#039;m sorry it&#039;s been so negative for you. As I said before, I do sincerely sympathsie. I wish you the very best of luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naomi, learning should be a fun experience too, I&#8217;m sorry it&#8217;s been so negative for you. As I said before, I do sincerely sympathsie. I wish you the very best of luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Naomi Sugai</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2008/04/06/i-can-sympathise-with-naomi/comment-page-1/#comment-90531</link>
		<dc:creator>Naomi Sugai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had various emails from supporters and I believe one of them contacted an MP (although I&#039;m not sure if it was David Howarth) in any case the MP&#039;s response was that although the university rely on public funding they are essentially an independent institution free to be run in whatever way they see fit.

I will however contact David Howarth and see if what he has to say is the same as what I&#039;ve written above. 

I contacted the Office of fair trading who don&#039;t deal with individual queries but they put me through to Consumer Direct and they were able to give me some useful information. The two choices given to me by consumer direct was to quit the course and get money back from the university for &quot;breach of contract&quot; or to finish the degree and possibly not get any money back as I would have used the full service in the eyes of the law, or if I was really adamant find a way to prove my consequencial loss and go through the small claims court.

Regarless of whether any of this happens I found out that each call is logged so that if they get a large number of complaints about the same organisation or institution and especially same problems experienced by different people that organisation or institution will be externally investigated by Consumer Direct, so what we need to do here is to encourage more people to complain so that organisations and institutions that are falling below the minimum standard get scrutinized from an independent outside organization who have the power to instill change.

Although I will not name names, one of our classmates has suffered a break down partly due to the stress caused by our course issues which I think just goes to prove how stressful it really is to be at the university and in particular the course that we are on. I have made the associate dean of student affairs aware of this as I think they need to know what a negative impact the university is having not just on this individual but on many students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had various emails from supporters and I believe one of them contacted an MP (although I&#8217;m not sure if it was David Howarth) in any case the MP&#8217;s response was that although the university rely on public funding they are essentially an independent institution free to be run in whatever way they see fit.</p>
<p>I will however contact David Howarth and see if what he has to say is the same as what I&#8217;ve written above. </p>
<p>I contacted the Office of fair trading who don&#8217;t deal with individual queries but they put me through to Consumer Direct and they were able to give me some useful information. The two choices given to me by consumer direct was to quit the course and get money back from the university for &#8220;breach of contract&#8221; or to finish the degree and possibly not get any money back as I would have used the full service in the eyes of the law, or if I was really adamant find a way to prove my consequencial loss and go through the small claims court.</p>
<p>Regarless of whether any of this happens I found out that each call is logged so that if they get a large number of complaints about the same organisation or institution and especially same problems experienced by different people that organisation or institution will be externally investigated by Consumer Direct, so what we need to do here is to encourage more people to complain so that organisations and institutions that are falling below the minimum standard get scrutinized from an independent outside organization who have the power to instill change.</p>
<p>Although I will not name names, one of our classmates has suffered a break down partly due to the stress caused by our course issues which I think just goes to prove how stressful it really is to be at the university and in particular the course that we are on. I have made the associate dean of student affairs aware of this as I think they need to know what a negative impact the university is having not just on this individual but on many students.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellee</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2008/04/06/i-can-sympathise-with-naomi/comment-page-1/#comment-89304</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naomi, I&#039;m so glad you found my post and thank you for your comment. I&#039;m glad you stuck to your guns, but am sorry for you that it has been such a struggle. I&#039;m wondering whether it would be worth your while writing to your MP David Howarth outlining your experiences and disappointments. These universities should be accountable, after all, they rely on public funding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naomi, I&#8217;m so glad you found my post and thank you for your comment. I&#8217;m glad you stuck to your guns, but am sorry for you that it has been such a struggle. I&#8217;m wondering whether it would be worth your while writing to your MP David Howarth outlining your experiences and disappointments. These universities should be accountable, after all, they rely on public funding.</p>
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		<title>By: Naomi Sugai</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2008/04/06/i-can-sympathise-with-naomi/comment-page-1/#comment-89179</link>
		<dc:creator>Naomi Sugai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read a comment above that said something like &quot;where are my support tutors?&quot; I thought I&#039;d take this opportunity to reply. I have got a course tutor to whom I&#039;ve explained the various problems and he has passed this on to someone higher than himself but the problem is that it just gets recorded somewhere (probably, I&#039;m just assuming this) and then put away in a drawer or filed away on a computer. My course is only 1 year, well technically it&#039;s one year and one semester but the one semester is for self study to write a dissertation so I had to do something drastic in order for change to happen whilst I was still there. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s selfish of me to expect that. Also if every year every student said how they really felt the uni would be forced to improve the courses, well one could only  hope that they would.

Through sheer determination and a lot of bitching I have managed to be allowed onto a module called Internet Marketing which should have been an option anyway. What I am unhappy about is the fact that I have to do this module on top of my work load for this semester instead of doing it in the summer when we should be allowed to do extra modules.

They have finally organised two modules to be run in the summer.  They are Entrepeneurship and Innovation which is already being run for the MBA students which means we will be joining a class that&#039;s already running and that it&#039;s not run specifically for us, which I don&#039;t particularly have a problem with but the university is acting like they are doing me and the rest of my class a massive favour (offering us what was in the prospectus, how generous!?!?!) The other one is called something like Leadership and Organisation which we have covered in both semester 1 and 2 which means we are not getting value for money.

My feeling is that I should have gone straight into employment and not wasted my money and time doing this course but as I am more than half way through I feel obligated to finish it due to the guilt of wasting the money and to show that I&#039;ve nothing to be ashamed of and I AM going to finish the course!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read a comment above that said something like &#8220;where are my support tutors?&#8221; I thought I&#8217;d take this opportunity to reply. I have got a course tutor to whom I&#8217;ve explained the various problems and he has passed this on to someone higher than himself but the problem is that it just gets recorded somewhere (probably, I&#8217;m just assuming this) and then put away in a drawer or filed away on a computer. My course is only 1 year, well technically it&#8217;s one year and one semester but the one semester is for self study to write a dissertation so I had to do something drastic in order for change to happen whilst I was still there. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s selfish of me to expect that. Also if every year every student said how they really felt the uni would be forced to improve the courses, well one could only  hope that they would.</p>
<p>Through sheer determination and a lot of bitching I have managed to be allowed onto a module called Internet Marketing which should have been an option anyway. What I am unhappy about is the fact that I have to do this module on top of my work load for this semester instead of doing it in the summer when we should be allowed to do extra modules.</p>
<p>They have finally organised two modules to be run in the summer.  They are Entrepeneurship and Innovation which is already being run for the MBA students which means we will be joining a class that&#8217;s already running and that it&#8217;s not run specifically for us, which I don&#8217;t particularly have a problem with but the university is acting like they are doing me and the rest of my class a massive favour (offering us what was in the prospectus, how generous!?!?!) The other one is called something like Leadership and Organisation which we have covered in both semester 1 and 2 which means we are not getting value for money.</p>
<p>My feeling is that I should have gone straight into employment and not wasted my money and time doing this course but as I am more than half way through I feel obligated to finish it due to the guilt of wasting the money and to show that I&#8217;ve nothing to be ashamed of and I AM going to finish the course!</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2008/04/06/i-can-sympathise-with-naomi/comment-page-1/#comment-87438</link>
		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did a BA hons at ARU (or APU) as it was called in 1997. Having very few prior academic qualifications I was delighted to be accepted and &#039;Educating Rita&#039; style fully embraced all that was offered.  However, I soon realised that some of the teaching staff were &#039;left-overs&#039; from the &#039;tech&#039; days and not really suited to teach at an undergraduate level.  The keen new and young tutors didn&#039;t last as they soon moved to better, real, Universities.  Basically ARU, like many former higher educational establishments have jumped,  on the University bandwagon without having the   expereince to teach or administer at such a level.  I am sure that if they went back to offering young people sound and thorough training in technical skills at a City and Guilds level then the country would have the workforce it needed and young people would find  valuable, debt free, employment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a BA hons at ARU (or APU) as it was called in 1997. Having very few prior academic qualifications I was delighted to be accepted and &#8216;Educating Rita&#8217; style fully embraced all that was offered.  However, I soon realised that some of the teaching staff were &#8216;left-overs&#8217; from the &#8216;tech&#8217; days and not really suited to teach at an undergraduate level.  The keen new and young tutors didn&#8217;t last as they soon moved to better, real, Universities.  Basically ARU, like many former higher educational establishments have jumped,  on the University bandwagon without having the   expereince to teach or administer at such a level.  I am sure that if they went back to offering young people sound and thorough training in technical skills at a City and Guilds level then the country would have the workforce it needed and young people would find  valuable, debt free, employment.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellee</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2008/04/06/i-can-sympathise-with-naomi/comment-page-1/#comment-87293</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Courtney, it was all a new language to me and I felt clueless. I worked so hard and persevered - and even became the class student rep. Good luck with your course, I am sure you will do well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Courtney, it was all a new language to me and I felt clueless. I worked so hard and persevered &#8211; and even became the class student rep. Good luck with your course, I am sure you will do well.</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2008/04/06/i-can-sympathise-with-naomi/comment-page-1/#comment-87292</link>
		<dc:creator>Courtney Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You did well to get through the Applied Social Science Research Methods, without support, most mere mortals would have fallen by the wayside - very tough.

I&#039;m currently doing a MSc Social Research &amp;  Evaluation at the London Metropolitan University, which involves studying complex research methods and evaluation strategies - very tough, even with support. I can understand what you must have been going through - you have my utmost respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You did well to get through the Applied Social Science Research Methods, without support, most mere mortals would have fallen by the wayside &#8211; very tough.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently doing a MSc Social Research &amp;  Evaluation at the London Metropolitan University, which involves studying complex research methods and evaluation strategies &#8211; very tough, even with support. I can understand what you must have been going through &#8211; you have my utmost respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Almond</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2008/04/06/i-can-sympathise-with-naomi/comment-page-1/#comment-87244</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Almond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ellee,

I suppose that&#039;s what happens when people have to pay for something.

When there were no fees for tuition, people didn&#039;t complain. They got something for free and were grateful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellee,</p>
<p>I suppose that&#8217;s what happens when people have to pay for something.</p>
<p>When there were no fees for tuition, people didn&#8217;t complain. They got something for free and were grateful.</p>
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