Comments on: Copenhagen disaster forces John Gummer to quit http://elleeseymour.com/2009/12/30/copenhagen-disaster-forces-john-gummer-to-quit/ PRESS CONSULTANT, JOURNALIST, GHOSTWRITER, POLITICAL AND PR BLOGGER. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 13:26:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Ellee Seymour - MCIPR, PRESS CONSULTANT, JOURNALIST, POLITICAL AND PR BLOGGER. » Where are the local Suffolk candidates? http://elleeseymour.com/2009/12/30/copenhagen-disaster-forces-john-gummer-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-178007 Ellee Seymour - MCIPR, PRESS CONSULTANT, JOURNALIST, POLITICAL AND PR BLOGGER. » Where are the local Suffolk candidates? Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:52:36 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2009/12/30/copenhagen-disaster-forces-john-gummer-to-quit/#comment-178007 [...] Copenhagen disaster forces John Gummer to quit [...] [...] Copenhagen disaster forces John Gummer to quit [...]

]]> By: Welshcakes Limoncello http://elleeseymour.com/2009/12/30/copenhagen-disaster-forces-john-gummer-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-177972 Welshcakes Limoncello Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:11:05 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2009/12/30/copenhagen-disaster-forces-john-gummer-to-quit/#comment-177972 I think you know my views, Ellee - that the only criteria should be merit. I think you know my views, Ellee – that the only criteria should be merit.

]]> By: English Pensioner http://elleeseymour.com/2009/12/30/copenhagen-disaster-forces-john-gummer-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-177970 English Pensioner Sun, 03 Jan 2010 19:19:06 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2009/12/30/copenhagen-disaster-forces-john-gummer-to-quit/#comment-177970 Are women really as keen on women MPs that current thinking suggests? I have never met a woman who actually wants a female MP in preference to a male. Yes, I suspect that <b> all things being equal </b>they would prefer a female, but the majority do not have any preference in the matter. This is my view as a male, I've nothing against women MPs, but nothing for them either. I just want the best, whatever sex. Perhaps some research should be carried out other than by women's libbers! Are women really as keen on women MPs that current thinking suggests? I have never met a woman who actually wants a female MP in preference to a male. Yes, I suspect that all things being equal they would prefer a female, but the majority do not have any preference in the matter. This is my view as a male, I’ve nothing against women MPs, but nothing for them either. I just want the best, whatever sex.
Perhaps some research should be carried out other than by women’s libbers!

]]> By: trubes http://elleeseymour.com/2009/12/30/copenhagen-disaster-forces-john-gummer-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-177944 trubes Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:50:26 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2009/12/30/copenhagen-disaster-forces-john-gummer-to-quit/#comment-177944 Hello Ellie, I totally agree with what 'Dissafected' has to say on selection, One should be selected on merit and merit alone, disregarding gender, ethnicity etc. Just take a look at the hapless gaggle of failed 'wimmin' MPs in the Blair/Brown Governments... For example, Jaqui Smith, Hazel Blears, Caroline Flint, Ruth Kelly, et al. These ex Government Ministers, were promoted way beyond their capabilities, purely because they were women, not in spite of being women. I agree that the great Margaret Thatcher is a hard act to follow, but she rose to the top simply because she was capable, not because she was a woman. Every good wish for 2010 Ellie...and roll on the General Election...I can't wait to see this corrupt and duplicitous Goverment wiped off the face of the earth and jettisoned into obscurity, forever. Di. Hello Ellie, I totally agree with what ‘Dissafected’ has to say on
selection,
One should be selected on merit
and merit alone, disregarding gender,
ethnicity etc.
Just take a look at the hapless gaggle
of failed ‘wimmin’ MPs in the Blair/Brown Governments…
For example,
Jaqui Smith, Hazel Blears, Caroline Flint, Ruth Kelly, et al.
These ex Government Ministers, were promoted way beyond their capabilities, purely because they were women, not in spite of being women.
I agree that the great Margaret Thatcher is a hard act to follow, but she rose to the top simply because she was capable, not because she was a woman.

Every good wish for 2010 Ellie…and roll on the General Election…I can’t wait to see this corrupt and duplicitous Goverment wiped off the face of the earth and jettisoned into obscurity, forever.

Di.

]]> By: Ellee http://elleeseymour.com/2009/12/30/copenhagen-disaster-forces-john-gummer-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-177941 Ellee Fri, 01 Jan 2010 11:38:46 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2009/12/30/copenhagen-disaster-forces-john-gummer-to-quit/#comment-177941 Disaffected, yes, it would be good to meet you again. We should arrange it. Disaffected, yes, it would be good to meet you again. We should arrange it.

]]> By: disaffected http://elleeseymour.com/2009/12/30/copenhagen-disaster-forces-john-gummer-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-177940 disaffected Fri, 01 Jan 2010 10:55:41 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2009/12/30/copenhagen-disaster-forces-john-gummer-to-quit/#comment-177940 And a very happy and hopefully ( inspite of all the financial forecasts , a curse on Brown and all his cronies , especially Mandelson ) a prosperous one to you also Ellee . We should meet up again sometime ! And a very happy and hopefully ( inspite of all the financial forecasts , a curse on Brown and all his cronies , especially Mandelson ) a prosperous one to you also Ellee .
We should meet up again sometime !

]]> By: Jean-Luc Picard http://elleeseymour.com/2009/12/30/copenhagen-disaster-forces-john-gummer-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-177875 Jean-Luc Picard Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:59:54 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2009/12/30/copenhagen-disaster-forces-john-gummer-to-quit/#comment-177875 Politicians should stay in the house for as long as they are elected. I don't agree with fixed terms. Democracy is voting people into the house, not using positive discrimination. Politicians should stay in the house for as long as they are elected. I don’t agree with fixed terms. Democracy is voting people into the house, not using positive discrimination.

]]> By: Ellee http://elleeseymour.com/2009/12/30/copenhagen-disaster-forces-john-gummer-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-177873 Ellee Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:42:24 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2009/12/30/copenhagen-disaster-forces-john-gummer-to-quit/#comment-177873 Hi disaffected, many thanks for your comment. Women candidates should - and are, hopefully - chosen on merit, but they haven't always had the same opportunities to demonstrate this; that's why they need more opportunities to stand as candidates in safe seats, and that is now happening. Yes, Thatcher has yet to be emulated, and I am looking forward to reading about her papers just published after the 30 year rule; I've only dipped into them so far. Happy New Year to you. Hi disaffected, many thanks for your comment. Women candidates should – and are, hopefully – chosen on merit, but they haven’t always had the same opportunities to demonstrate this; that’s why they need more opportunities to stand as candidates in safe seats, and that is now happening.
Yes, Thatcher has yet to be emulated, and I am looking forward to reading about her papers just published after the 30 year rule; I’ve only dipped into them so far.
Happy New Year to you.

]]> By: disaffected http://elleeseymour.com/2009/12/30/copenhagen-disaster-forces-john-gummer-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-177870 disaffected Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:38:57 +0000 http://elleeseymour.com/2009/12/30/copenhagen-disaster-forces-john-gummer-to-quit/#comment-177870 Hi Ellee, Cant go with either the positive discrimination lark nor only allowing MPs set time limits to stay in the House . Women are no different from male counterparts and we must be simply judged on merit , knowledge and ability . It would be a backward step to give women a step up simply cos they use the gender card.( as at the Euro elections ! ) As for making MPs only eligable to stay for a set time , two major downsides come immediately to mind . Firstly , it will put lots of good people off , after all if you are giving up your present career and all its expectations its a huge step to go into the Commons . You would in the scenario you put forward then end up having lost time and momentum have an almost certainly impossible job of trying to get back into your past career when all the younger models have taken your place. Secondly, you loose all the experience that these same people have picked up over their years in public office and instead have a whole group of totally inexperienced ones in their place . A recipe for disaster . Leave the system as it is , after all it not only got us the likes of Churchill but also the wonderful Margaret Thatcher . By the way have you read the stuff in todays papers about her given the 30 year rule comes to an end . What a Leader she was in every way . Hi Ellee,
Cant go with either the positive discrimination lark nor only allowing MPs set time limits to stay in the House .
Women are no different from male counterparts and we must be simply judged on merit , knowledge and ability .
It would be a backward step to give women a step up simply cos they use the gender card.( as at the Euro elections ! )
As for making MPs only eligable to stay for a set time , two major downsides come immediately to mind .
Firstly , it will put lots of good people off , after all if you are giving up your present career and all its expectations its a huge step to go into the Commons .
You would in the scenario you put forward then end up having lost time and momentum have an almost certainly impossible job of trying to get back into your past career when all the younger models have taken your place.
Secondly, you loose all the experience that these same people have picked up over their years in public office and instead have a whole group of totally inexperienced ones in their place .
A recipe for disaster .
Leave the system as it is , after all it not only got us the likes of Churchill but also the wonderful Margaret Thatcher .
By the way have you read the stuff in todays papers about her given the 30 year rule comes to an end .
What a Leader she was in every way .

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