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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2010/01/22/a-question-about-telephone-election-canvassing/comment-page-1/#comment-179215</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Winchester Whisperer

The rules are very clear - in 2005 the Information Commissioner said that the term &#039;Marketing&#039; includes the promotion of an organisation&#039;s aims and ideals, and that it therefore classes political canvassing as marketing. This applies to the Telephone Preference Service and the use of automated calling equipment (RoboCalls).

It&#039;s very disappointing to see the Labour Party making half a million RoboCalls in clear breach of these rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Winchester Whisperer</p>
<p>The rules are very clear &#8211; in 2005 the Information Commissioner said that the term &#8216;Marketing&#8217; includes the promotion of an organisation&#8217;s aims and ideals, and that it therefore classes political canvassing as marketing. This applies to the Telephone Preference Service and the use of automated calling equipment (RoboCalls).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very disappointing to see the Labour Party making half a million RoboCalls in clear breach of these rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Winchester Whisperer</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2010/01/22/a-question-about-telephone-election-canvassing/comment-page-1/#comment-178438</link>
		<dc:creator>Winchester Whisperer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a grey area as canvassing isn&#039;t strictly selling. However, if people opt for TPS, one assumes they don&#039;t want to be called by people they don&#039;t know and so one should respect their privacy, in my view, particularly if it could lose their vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a grey area as canvassing isn&#8217;t strictly selling. However, if people opt for TPS, one assumes they don&#8217;t want to be called by people they don&#8217;t know and so one should respect their privacy, in my view, particularly if it could lose their vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellee</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2010/01/22/a-question-about-telephone-election-canvassing/comment-page-1/#comment-178344</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D M Andy, thanks for the links, they are very helpful.
I agree that calls for political campaigning purposes should be separate from the more usual cold calls for marketing and sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D M Andy, thanks for the links, they are very helpful.<br />
I agree that calls for political campaigning purposes should be separate from the more usual cold calls for marketing and sales.</p>
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		<title>By: CherryPie</title>
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		<dc:creator>CherryPie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have signed up with the telephone preference society.  It doesn&#039;t however stop people picking up the local phone book and calling you.

Like Anne I would like to see the political parties coming to my door so I can speak to them face to face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have signed up with the telephone preference society.  It doesn&#8217;t however stop people picking up the local phone book and calling you.</p>
<p>Like Anne I would like to see the political parties coming to my door so I can speak to them face to face.</p>
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		<title>By: DM Andy</title>
		<link>http://elleeseymour.com/2010/01/22/a-question-about-telephone-election-canvassing/comment-page-1/#comment-178272</link>
		<dc:creator>DM Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 12:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually think it&#039;s not a very good idea to call householders who have registered with TPS due to the fact it annoys them.  Part of that is a misconception about what TPS is, people have been led to believe it will stop cold-calling, when in fact it stops people cold-calling to sell you stuff (which includes ideas).  That leads to complaints from people who think that you&#039;ve overstepped the line when you haven&#039;t.  In the first six months of 2005, there were 262 complaints against the Labour Party for cold calling, 205 complaints against the Conservatives for the same thing Source: http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/foi_request_responses/response_foi_507.pdf

Ideally, the TPS should have two sections, one for people who are happy to be contacted for market research and information purposes and those that don&#039;t want anyone they don&#039;t know calling them ever.  Then political parties would feel on safer ground contacting people on the first list.

The official guidance to political parties is here: http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/library/data_protection/detailed_specialist_guides/telephone_marketing_by_a_political_party.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think it&#8217;s not a very good idea to call householders who have registered with TPS due to the fact it annoys them.  Part of that is a misconception about what TPS is, people have been led to believe it will stop cold-calling, when in fact it stops people cold-calling to sell you stuff (which includes ideas).  That leads to complaints from people who think that you&#8217;ve overstepped the line when you haven&#8217;t.  In the first six months of 2005, there were 262 complaints against the Labour Party for cold calling, 205 complaints against the Conservatives for the same thing Source: <a href="http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/foi_request_responses/response_foi_507.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/foi_request_responses/response_foi_507.pdf</a></p>
<p>Ideally, the TPS should have two sections, one for people who are happy to be contacted for market research and information purposes and those that don&#8217;t want anyone they don&#8217;t know calling them ever.  Then political parties would feel on safer ground contacting people on the first list.</p>
<p>The official guidance to political parties is here: <a href="http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/library/data_protection/detailed_specialist_guides/telephone_marketing_by_a_political_party.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/library/data_protection/detailed_specialist_guides/telephone_marketing_by_a_political_party.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ellee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi DM Andy, this is a question I was asking clarification about because I was uncertain. I know of one Conservative parliamentary candidate who has told me that they are not calling householders who have registered with TPS. It still seems to be a grey area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi DM Andy, this is a question I was asking clarification about because I was uncertain. I know of one Conservative parliamentary candidate who has told me that they are not calling householders who have registered with TPS. It still seems to be a grey area.</p>
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		<title>By: DM Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>DM Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ellee, as I pointed out on Twitter, the TPS service does not mean that you can&#039;t be called by political parties.

The TPS bans marketing messages, so if you sign up to the TPS you shouldn&#039;t receive any robo-calls from candidates or party leaders.  But political parties can conduct market research (which is primarily what canvassing is) through unsoliticed polls.

What political parties can&#039;t do is use market research as a lead in to marketing.  I don&#039;t know what the Tories use, but Labour phone canvassers are issued with a script that makes sure that every call follows the law.  There were a number of complaints, stoked up by the Lib Dems mostly against Labour cold-calling in the 2005 election, they were all investigated and what Labour did was shown to be inside the law.  

Suggesting that someone&#039;s doing something illegal when they aren&#039;t is rather bad form, don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellee, as I pointed out on Twitter, the TPS service does not mean that you can&#8217;t be called by political parties.</p>
<p>The TPS bans marketing messages, so if you sign up to the TPS you shouldn&#8217;t receive any robo-calls from candidates or party leaders.  But political parties can conduct market research (which is primarily what canvassing is) through unsoliticed polls.</p>
<p>What political parties can&#8217;t do is use market research as a lead in to marketing.  I don&#8217;t know what the Tories use, but Labour phone canvassers are issued with a script that makes sure that every call follows the law.  There were a number of complaints, stoked up by the Lib Dems mostly against Labour cold-calling in the 2005 election, they were all investigated and what Labour did was shown to be inside the law.  </p>
<p>Suggesting that someone&#8217;s doing something illegal when they aren&#8217;t is rather bad form, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne wrote:

&quot;I have blocked cold callers too. As they are very irritating&quot;. 
Anne, this is because many calls are badly executed. I&#039;ve recently referred to bad &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jeremyjacobs.com/?p=1363&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cold-calling&lt;/a&gt; several times recently on my site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;I have blocked cold callers too. As they are very irritating&#8221;.<br />
Anne, this is because many calls are badly executed. I&#8217;ve recently referred to bad <a href="http://www.jeremyjacobs.com/?p=1363" rel="nofollow">cold-calling</a> several times recently on my site.</p>
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		<title>By: anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have blocked cold callers too. As they are very irritating. I don&#039;t want to be called by politcal parties, and in the run up to an election, how many times would my phone ring?

I want to see parties out and about, answering questions or knocking on doors, like they did a few years ago in Daventry.  Only one party came round and he got my vote, and I got what I wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have blocked cold callers too. As they are very irritating. I don&#8217;t want to be called by politcal parties, and in the run up to an election, how many times would my phone ring?</p>
<p>I want to see parties out and about, answering questions or knocking on doors, like they did a few years ago in Daventry.  Only one party came round and he got my vote, and I got what I wanted.</p>
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